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Post  Solarium King on Tue Jul 20, 2010 4:08 pm

That was probably the worst round ever. If you were a wolf, you are in debt for 100 million to the LGT if you lost. If you won and were a wolf, you're not in debt, but you don't get any money.

LOL, I can't stop laughing.

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Post  Furer Kip on Tue Jul 20, 2010 5:04 pm

Catch - 22, I suppose...

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Post  BadPlayer on Tue Jul 20, 2010 7:32 pm

Furer Kip wrote:Catch - 22, I suppose...
Not really, just silliness.
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Post  monday on Tue Jul 20, 2010 7:35 pm

It's sort of funny...and sad. Oh well~
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Post  Forli on Tue Jul 20, 2010 8:06 pm

What the hell? Wolves do earn money if they win. It would be non-sense if they didn't. Who told you otherwise?
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Post  JigSaw on Tue Jul 20, 2010 8:25 pm

The rules werent very clear Tbh.
For Instance. The post that FusionBlu sent everyone had a few errors that no1 bothered to fix up. One of these errors was
It did not say that if the wolf and a sheep/shepherd were left they would both win
and that if a wolf a shepherd and a sheep were left then all 3 would win
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Post  Solarium King on Tue Jul 20, 2010 8:26 pm

Forli wrote:What the hell? Wolves do earn money if they win. It would be non-sense if they didn't. Who told you otherwise?

Kinda figured, since the LGT loaned them 100 million, and there was nothing in the rules that said their debt was wiped with the LGT if they won as a wolf.

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Post  JigSaw on Tue Jul 20, 2010 8:30 pm

even worse is that. The Game didnt even say that LGT had loaned money out to the wolves. Technically, The wolves shouldnt be in debt
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Post  Solarium King on Tue Jul 20, 2010 8:32 pm

Lol, wow.

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Re: Can't stop laughing

Post  Leronira on Tue Jul 20, 2010 8:37 pm

Due to the game being zero-sum, the money had to come from somewhere. We considered taking it from the sheep as well, but that would require odd amounts from each sheep. So we took the step to remove the 100 Mil from the wolf. Simple as that.
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Re: Can't stop laughing

Post  JigSaw on Tue Jul 20, 2010 8:44 pm

If you really wanted to make it Zero Sum. It isnt that Hard.

The LGT Office has lent Each Player 100 million Yen.
1)If a sheep Doubts a Wolf Correctly. The sheep will Take 100 million yen from the wolf.
2)If a wolf Kills A sheep. THe sheep will then lose 20 million yen which will then be given to the wolf after the round.
3)If a sheep Doubts another sheep incorrectly. The Doubting Sheep would lose 50 Million Yen will be given to the wolf. Whereas the Sheep being doubted would die but lose nothing. (This makes it more fair as it was the doubting sheeps fault not the sheep being doubted's fault. So really the Doubting sheep pays for both loses)

Seeing as the wolves were highly disadvantaged in this game I do Sincerely Believe that Rule 3 would be that strict in order to lower random Doubting

At the end of the round. We will take back the 100 Million yen that we had lent you WITHOUT FAILURE.


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Post  Solarium King on Tue Jul 20, 2010 8:48 pm

So you took loan of money from the winner, and you gave the amount you made to the wolf as a loan? If that's the case, the wolf still doesn't make any money, since he just took his money back...

I don't understand your post.

I can understand if this wasn't a zero-sum game though, you gave 100 million to the winner.

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Post  JigSaw on Tue Jul 20, 2010 8:53 pm

My Post is how the game should of been.
Like the Manga/drama Lgt would first lend out 100 million yen to all players. My post was just rewriting the rules as to what happens when the wolf dies kills or a sheep doubts.
After the Round the LGT would then take back the 100 million yen from all players that they lent to .

So if you were a sheep that doubted another sheep incorrectly. Then you would go 50 million yen in debt.
If you were a wolf that killed 2 sheep before dying then you would go 60 million yen in debt
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Post  Solarium King on Tue Jul 20, 2010 8:53 pm

JigSaw wrote:My Post is how the game should of been.
Like the Manga/drama Lgt would first lend out 100 million yen to all players. My post was just rewriting the rules as to what happens when the wolf dies kills or a sheep doubts.
After the Round the LGT would then take back the 100 million yen from all players that they lent to .

So if you were a sheep that doubted another sheep incorrectly. Then you would go 50 million yen in debt.
If you were a wolf that killed 2 sheep before dying then you would go 60 million yen in debt

Was talking to Leronira Sad. I agree with what you had up there though.

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Post  Nearco on Tue Jul 20, 2010 9:53 pm

Jigsaw: The post that fusionblu made was out of our hands. We found out about it about an hour before the start of the game.

Also, I had actually made suggestions that gave the wolf an advantage, although it did not see play. If it's any help, the revival round will have noone at such a strict disadvantage as the wolf did in round 1, as far as we can tell.
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Post  Solarium King on Tue Jul 20, 2010 9:54 pm

Nearco wrote:Jigsaw: The post that fusionblu made was out of our hands. We found out about it about an hour before the start of the game.

Also, I had actually made suggestions that gave the wolf an advantage, although it did not see play. If it's any help, the revival round will have noone at such a strict disadvantage as the wolf did in round 1, as far as we can tell.

Oh, okay Smile. I heard there was money to be made in the Revival Round >.>?

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Post  Guest on Tue Jul 20, 2010 11:32 pm

JigSaw wrote:The rules werent very clear Tbh.
For Instance. The post that FusionBlu sent everyone had a few errors that no1 bothered to fix up. One of these errors was
It did not say that if the wolf and a sheep/shepherd were left they would both win
and that if a wolf a shepherd and a sheep were left then all 3 would win

Just something to confirm, the PM of the rules I sent were actually out-dated in certain areas such as the winners of the preliminaries (such as Unknowns who were deleted as a result of being an extra account of Adam who was then deleted) and in some cases the rules too (with incorrect or missing sections).

When I sent the rules to everyone, the rules that was there were developed by the other dealers at the time, not me so I'm just confirming this to let you know that I won't take responsibility for errors and other missing information in that PM; I only sent out what was written in RSP document I was sent for Round One.
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Post  JigSaw on Wed Jul 21, 2010 12:45 am

but nevertheless no1 bothered to fix it up. Which Caused mass confusion.
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Re: Can't stop laughing

Post  Xanatos on Wed Jul 21, 2010 12:52 am

....i liked the game, it was fun
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Re: Can't stop laughing

Post  JigSaw on Wed Jul 21, 2010 12:53 am

I didnt like it... I died First...
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Post  monday on Wed Jul 21, 2010 1:59 am

Xanatos wrote:....i liked the game, it was fun

Wasn't it sort of funny? xD
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Post  Xanatos on Wed Jul 21, 2010 3:26 am

monday wrote:
Xanatos wrote:....i liked the game, it was fun

Wasn't it sort of funny? xD

yea in a good way, not a bad one. kudos dealers, especially nearco for awesome narration.
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Re: Can't stop laughing

Post  Tsuki on Wed Jul 21, 2010 4:55 am

Hmm Jigsaw should be a dealer >.>
I really hope you suggest some games to the dealers XD
Or you could check on them and see if they worked.
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Re: Can't stop laughing

Post  Talinos on Wed Jul 21, 2010 5:56 am

The Minority was the best game until now(i suggest it 1 week before it was going live)....fair, tactical. complex!The other just ....wasn't...ah men i say it ...they sucked!They wasn't well thought...sorry to say it. But i already wrote my opinion of the first Round. (also i suggest some changes...even the money things)
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Post  Solarium King on Wed Jul 21, 2010 10:59 am

Talinos wrote:The Minority was the best game until now(i suggest it 1 week before it was going live)....fair, tactical. complex!The other just ....wasn't...ah men i say it ...they sucked!They wasn't well thought...sorry to say it. But i already wrote my opinion of the first Round. (also i suggest some changes...even the money things)

Shut up, you add nothing to the conversation.

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